We put a half dose of Bio Spot on our one year old beagle. Within 5 hours of the application he began walking around the house. He then started what became 2 days of seizures, 2 days and nights in the emergency vet hospital as well as our regular vets office. Over a 48 hour period the dog had over 30 seizures. We spent $500 to save his life.
Do Not use Bio Spot and pass the word on to the stores that sell that poison.
Randy 8/2/04
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We lost our 2 year old pit bull, Jesse, last summer to grand mal seizures I'm sure were brought on by Advantage.
The summer before, when she was 1 year old, we had a flea problem, as we do every summer. I purchased Advantage for both dogs. The next day, I came home to find my husband very upset and an extremely ill dog. She had started having continuous grand mal and petit mal seizures - one would stop and she wouldn't even have time to recover and another would start. She bit into her tongue so many times it was like raw meat. I rushed her to the vet, and he gave her a couple of shots to stop the seizures. He had to give her double the normal dose of phenobarb, and also something else. We finally got it stopped and he sent her home with phenobarb pills. Her tongue was so torn up she ended up losing a quarter sized chunk from one side and it was irregularly shaped from then on.
The vet said it could be epilepsy, although she was young for it to be developing. We called the breeder, but no other dogs from them had had this problem. I was looking for a cause, but this is a country vet that basically treats the symptoms. I took her to another vet, who did blood tests to see if it could be anything else. Everything came back fine, so she said it was probably epilepsy, just showing up early. She proposed much more testing, but since the dog hadn't had another problem at that time, and the cost was very high (and we'd already spent quite a bit), we decided to wait and see if she stopped or if the phenobarb controlled the seizures.
A month after this, I applied the Advantage again, having no clue the side effects that were possible. I just assumed the dog had developed epilepsy like the vet said. The next day, she started seizing again, but not as bad as the first time. I got out my pet first aid book and started researching epilepsy, to familiarize myself with what we were in for. There I saw a list of things that cause seizures, and Advantage was listed. Once I thought about it and put it together, I realized that both episodes had followed an application of Advantage by about a day. We quit using it, and kept adjusting the dose of phenobarb to try to keep Jesse from having any more seizures. When I asked the vet about the Advantage, he said he'd heard of that happening, but never seen it personally (they sold the product to me). He said that's what probably started it, though, with the timing being more than coincidence. He also said that some animals, once they've started having seizures from a reaction to something, continue to have them their whole life. It's like their brain "learns" how to have a seizure and just keeps on doing it.
I guess the damage had already been done, because about once a month she would have a cluster of grand mal seizures, usually 5 - 7, losing consciousness and bladder control and slobbering this thick, ropy saliva that stuck to everything in the house. We tried increasing the phenobarb to the highest recommended dosage, with no luck. She'd be fine for 3 - 4 weeks, then have a group of seizures which would take her a day or two to recover from. In the meantime, the phenobarb was making her constantly hungry and she'd put on weight.
And, either the seizures were taking their toll or the phenobarb had "dulling" effects, because she became mentally slower and slower. She was never the smartest dog to begin with, but after several months of this cycle, she was approaching plain stupid. At one point after a cluster, she did not even recognize us or the other dogs for a couple of days - that was scary, as she was so fearful of everything, I was afraid we'd get bitten. I ended up chaining her out for a day or two (it was late summer, and warm out) to the doghouse we had and just leaving her alone, because even approaching her would scare her. After a couple of days, she slowly came to her senses, and was back to mostly normal.
This went on for about a year with no improvement. We tried different medications, and were never able to effect the seizures at all. The vet said to try taking her off of everything and see what happened, so we could see if the meds were having any effect at all. This was last summer. At about the same time frame as usual, she started seizing. I put her outside so she wouldn't mess up the house and kept an eye on her. She'd been off her meds for about 3 weeks by then. I saw her recover from one seizure, like usual, and then fall over and start seizing again. A few minutes later, I saw her laying in the yard, and thought nothing of it, as she would usually lay in the same place for a bit, recovering, before slowly staggering to her feet. This had been going on for a year with such predictability it had become commonplace to us, and it didn't really even concern us any more. A bit later I saw her laying in the same place, and I noticed she was more still than usual (she would usually breathe hard for quite a while after a seizure). I went to check on her, and found she had died.
The Advantage may not have technically killed her, but it did start a cycle of seizures that would probably not have happened otherwise, and these seizures did kill her.
Tara 8/2/04
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It is 5:00 A.M. I have had heck of a night. I am recovering (still itching all over) from an allergic reaction. It was the first one I have ever had. I awoke about 2:30 restless not knowing why I couldn't sleep I just felt nervous and jittery. I went to the kitchen to get a glass of water. When I layed back down my palms were tingly then itched. Soon the soles of my feet also itched I wanted to claw my skin off. I got up out of bed when my wife asked me if I was o.k. i told her my body was itching all over. I went up stairs to sit in my recliner and see if I was going to die or not. I couldn't grasp why i felt this way. Then I started to wheeze, when I breathed, and coughed on the exhale. By now I was wondering if I was going crazy. I am in great shape, I run I workout, but now my face starts swelling like the way it feels when you get a shot at the dentist. O.K. I figure this is what a stroke feels like. I am dying time to wake the wife because now I am scared. I can't say my A.B.C.'s without difficulty. Penny met me in the kitchen, "are you o.k.?", " Iyum shcared my fash iyus numm" . Penny flipped on the light and took a hard look at me "oh God". "Your lips are huge". I said ," I think I am having a stroke or an allergic reaction". So we went over every thing I had done or eaten in the last 8 hours. Guess what? I had petted my dog that had a brand new treatment of Biospot on his coat, and had not washed my hands. It was the last thing I had done before going to bed. Penny told me to take a shower. When I took my clothes off I had welps all over my body. Pretty weird stuff. I feel a lot better after the shower and the benadryl. My lips are almost back down to normal size, so much for the Mick Jagger look. Any way, no one else I read about on your site had a reaction themselves. Just their dogs or cats. My dog is doing pretty well with the Biospot. I will not put it back on him. It is too potent for my liking.
Anonymous 8/3/04
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Yesterday while shopping I picked up some of this Bio Spot to use on my five dogs. After using this product one of my dogs Diezel our Jack Russell started to acted pretty unusual, very lethargic (highly unusual to have no energy) wouldn't move, would go for his back end and wine, when put outside to do his duties he would just stand there and not move except every nerve under his skin you could see crawling. That night I bathed him immediately using puppy shampoo (thinking it would be gentle enough and cause no more problems) something inside of me told me it must be the flea stuff, that was the only other thing that was out of the ordinary for the day. The next day he was scheduled to be neutered when I got there I immediately told them what was going on with him and as soon as I told them what I had used on Diezel they told me they were happy that I mentioned it to them. If they would have went through with the operation he could have died and told me I should go home and wash him and my other dogs with dawn dish soap and to keep my eye on them all and if I should have any problems to come down there right away or to go to the Vet ER that is open 24hrs. Here you think you are doing good for your animals and it turns out you are doing more harm because of companies like this one that don't list the really worse things that go wrong when using their product all they want is money they don't care if they are killing or cause serious health problems on family's beloved pets (family members).
Sonya 8/3/04
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I used this product two days ago. My dog was in extreme pain after application and went stiff with minor seizures. I will never use this product again.
Lynne 8/5/04
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Could it be that the dog that was adopted was already having seizures??? We adopted a dog a couple of years ago and took it to the vet, gave it advantix and everything was fine for a few months and then she got a couple of seizures. She's had some about every 2 to 5 months since then. Could it have been the advantix? Maybe she was already having seizures? Who knows but it is unfair to publish an article based on an ADOPTED dog's symptoms to God knows what. Maybe that's why the dog was let go by the original owner...because they didn't want to take care of it. All pest controls have disclaimers on them anyway. They're all dangerous-they kill! You're taking a chance with any pest control product, even Raid!
Gabriel 8/8/04
Is it possible that Bio Spot did not cause my dog's seizures? Yes, but given the fact that he never had a seizure during the six months we owned him prior to using Bio Spot, and he never had a seizure prior to that when my cousin owned him, and he has not had any seizures since we stopped using Bio Spot over two years ago, and given the fact that grand mal seizures are one of the symptoms of severe pesticide poisoning, and his seizures occurred immediately after application, and given the fact that many dogs and cats have experienced similar symptoms after using Bio Spot (and similar products), I don't believe it is unfair for me to speculate that the Bio Spot caused my dog's seizures.
I agree that all flea products containing pesticides are dangerous. If the directions had stated that Bio Spot may cause severe adverse reactions, including seizures, I would have looked for a safer alternative.
James TerBush 8/8/04
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I am in the same boat as all of you. I put bio-spot on my two kittens last night (August 7, 2004) and by 3:00 am EST; my cats acted like they got electrocuted. I rushed them both to the vet. As soon as I told the vet about the bio-spot he automatically knew what the problem was. As we speak right now they are both being hospitalized and this will cost me over $2,000 for both of them to stay for 4 days. They have to be intravenously feed them and they have a 50/50 chance of survival, not to mention what kind of neurological damage it may have caused them for their future. They are only 4 & 5 months old. This has to be stopped, they have to be stopped. So I think as a group that we should make them pay for this and sew this company. I just printed a name of an Attorney named Isabelle R. Stratuss who handles cases for animal rights. I think if we get enough people complaining and interested we can bring this company down and they will never hurt any more animals.
Erin 8/4/04
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Pet owners....do not use any Zodiac product on your pet. I used the flea and tick shampoo, recommended by Pet Smart, on Chu-Che on Sunday. She was a perfectly healthy, twelve year old lab, shar pei mix. She never had a sick day in her life. Today is Sunday, one week later, and we are mourning the loss of our precious dog. She died Thursday after having 14 Grand Mal seizures.
Anonymous 8/8/04
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My husband and I live in Stuart, Florida. Our dog Duke, a Jack Russell Terrier was euthanized last Friday after having six grand-mal seizures in 24 hours.
Although Duke had just survived an attack by a large dog and surgery to repair the damage done, he had made a full recovery and was back to enjoying his life again...running and playing, chasing balls and squirrels, barking his head off at the excitement of dinner time.
But after a visit from our exterminator, who has been coming here for years and knows we have dogs, he grew restless and started having violent seizures. Each seizure seemed worse, leaving him almost blind and combative.
On a hunch, I called the exterminator and asked what he had done. He told me there were two chemicals he had used that day: Bifenthrin (known to cause tremors in dogs if ingested) and Permethin.
As you know, if ingested, Permethin can cause grand mal seizures and neurological damage.
I am devastated at the loss of Duke, especially after all he had recently been through and survived. I hope your information on this terrible product/chemical reaches all pet owners. And I thank you for caring enough to spread the word and warning.
Allison 8/10/04
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I am witnessing as I write first hand what Bio Spot can do...I too, tried it on my dogs as it was cheaper than Frontline....after rubbing it on my 5 dogs, I commence to pet my cat....duh!....that was last night, this is the next day...I feel like a fool as I have poisoned her and she has undergone 3 grand mal seizures thus far. She is very weak and very shaky and is not at all herself...she did however, just finish about 1 tablespoon of tuna fish.....I am just waiting and praying for her that she is young enough to pull through. It will never be purchased by me again and as V. Pres. of Friends of Animals here in our local area, it will be spread like wildfire that it is hazardous to everyone's health....stay clear of it feeling like a fool,
Debra 8/10/04
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Farnum flea drops killed my cat and the other one is still in the hospital.
Vickie 8/12/04
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Could you please help me find more information about the Advantix problem?? My dog had his first and hopefully last seizure shortly after the vet changed his flea and tick from Frontline to Advantix.
Tara 8/14/04
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I am trying to spread the word about using K9 Advantix on your dog. My husband and I were given this product from our vet a few months ago. We have a ten month Golden Retriever that weighs 55lbs. The first two doses were fine. Shortly after the third dose we noticed that she began breaking out in sores on her face and along her neck. We were switching dog foods at the time and thought this might be the cause (since she had no prior reactions the first two administrations). We brought her to our vet who diagnosed her with a secondary skin infection. She said it could be an allergy to anything- most likely something in her new food. She gave us a round of antibiotics and never even suggested it could be due to the Advantix. One month later we put the Advantix on again. This time it was far worse- as though her body just could not tolerate this again. Within 36 hours we had to bring her to the vet. Ours was on vacation so we called around to others in the area. After describing her symptoms (severe scratching at the ears, leaking of puss behind the ears and swelling along the throat and neck) they asked if we had given her Advantix recently. We said yes and we were old to bring her in immediately. She was having a severe reaction to this and she almost died. They had to sedate her and they shaved around her ears and neck to expose the affected area. We were shocked at what we saw. In addition to her neck being about five times its normal size, her skin was literally burned from the Advantix. You could see where we had administered the Advantix at the base of the skull because there was a burn hole. Then you could see the path that the liquid took down both sides of her face down to her neck and throat. It had literally burned her skin right off. She had a major infection in these areas that had also crept into her ears and her right eye.
The next 24 hours were awful. We stayed up with her all night and were not sure she was going to make it. It has been about a week now and she is almost fully recovered. The company that manufactures this drug will only acknowledge that in rare occasions, some dogs do have a "sensitivity" to this. (Although, they gave us little resistance to reimbursing for our vet bills. We also learned, via a middle of the night phone call to our emergency vet clinic, that there was another dog going through this very experience in our same area- they thought we were the same people).
Since then, I have been reading other people's experiences with Advantix on various message boards. It does not appear that these reactions are as "rare" as the company claims them to be. (I also think they have a very distorted version of what a "sensitivity" or "minor reaction" really is).
I am writing this because had we known that this was even a possibility- we never would have put one drop of this on our dog. Our hope, since the company takes no formal responsibility in better communicating the risks associated with Advantix that someone may read this and spare themselves and their dog, the agony of this experience.
I am definitely willing to participate in any way I can if there is to be a class action law suit against these companies. It is wrong what they are doing for the almighty dollar.
Anjulee 8/17/04
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Zodiac Flea Trol KILLS
Re: reg..N/N D ENR 26496 P.C.P. ACT/LOI P.A
We HAD two cats. One 12 years old Tosha and the other 6 years old Toussia. We decided because of the summer flea season to buy them a product to apply to them against fleas. At the Pet Value store in Galleria Shopping Centre, located at 1245 Dupont Str. Toronto, ON M6H 2A6 (416)536-4282 the salesperson recommended Zodiac FleaTrol Spot On as "very good and effective". In good faith after reading the instructions on the box and listening to the salesperson we bought this product. Little did we know we were about to KILL our own cats.
Within 4 days of applying Zodiac FleaTrol Spot On our oldest cat became very lethargic, stopped eating or drinking and had trouble waking. He died two days later. The following day we noticed that the younger one started with the same symptoms. By the time we had a vet come over to the house it was too late. We explained that we had applied Zodiac FleaTrol Spot On but never in our wildest dreams did we know that we had poisoned our cats with this deadly TOXIC poison:
http://www.detoxourhomes.org/side_by_side.cfm
There is nothing like watching your pets die in front of you both within 4 days!!! Why are these people allowed to sell this poison?! The vet Ahmad Badri, DVM (416) 284-4610 said that the toxin goes through their skin and attacks their internal organs - liver, kidney etc. This product should be recalled immediately, there are a lot of testimonies like this, and Wellmark International Company will add ours as well. Zodiac FleaTrol should be banned from all the stores. Shame on you, Wellmark International for producing and selling this poison all for the "mighty buck!"
We reported this to U.S EPA, consumers should be aware of the real danger.
Andrei 8/19/04
We used Zodiac flea/troll drops on our two cats, they had never been exposed to any other chemicals. Unfortunately, I hadn't done my research before we put this poison on our cats. We would never experiment with a product if there was a risk to kill a pet or put them through adverse affect of the product. Nobody tells you at the store that you run such risk, nothing on the package as well.
Wellmark International Inc doesn't want to take responsibility, and never admit that Zodiac Flea troll (drops) could be dangerous. After 3 weeks of ignoring our e-mails we sent a letter to the company with the package of Zodiac Flea troll. Wellmark International Inc. responded to us with the letter from DVM Jordan Siegal (head of consumer relation department) that the symptoms are very similar to other diseases and Zodiac flea troll has nothing to do with the death of our cats. Our cats were never exposed to any other chemicals and the letter contained a lot of scientific stuff no one can make sense of any way. They even didn't bother to offer a refund to "unsatisfied customers" even though it was not about money from our part. In order to prove our case to them we have to dig out our cats from the backyard and do the autopsy, and than what? Hire a lawyer to fight Wellmark International Inc. They will get away with it any way, this is multi billion dollars industry. They have all the bases covered.
We have wrote letters anywhere we could - NPIC, Veterinarian Collage, Humane Society and private web sites to make people aware of the danger of Zodiac products. I wish we could do more. We can mail a copy of Wellmark Inc response if anyone is interested.
Please post my response on the web site to warn pet owners and again thank you for your support.
Andrei 11/23/04
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Thank you for publishing your web site regarding the ill-effects of bio spot. We wrote you about our cat Binky who had been treated with bio spot back in June and started having seizures that night. I am writing for two reasons:
1. Our cat has still not recovered. She is on 30 mg of Phenobarbital a day to control seizures, but she seems to have neurological damage and has not used her litter box since then. It's as if she doesn't recognize the need to go. I must express her bladder every morning. Are you familiar with this condition and do you (or anyone) have suggestions on what your vet used to detoxify their cat? Our vet attempted to treat her with Bethanechol to help her recognize her bladder, but it hasn't worked. He has now told us that there is nothing more that he can do and we must make a decision. I have an appointment with a veterinary clinic which specializes in alternative care next week, but anything you know would be helpful.
2.) I have been frustrated with the response I have gotten from Farnam (bio spot), the EPA and Petco regarding this product. Are you aware of anyone who has filed a class action lawsuit. I realize this would be a huge investment of time and resources, but I really feel this product should not be on the market.
Thank you for your help in spreading the word,
Janet 8/20/04
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I can't believe I've never heard that Bio Spot was such a dangerous medication for animals. We used it on four of our cats and our dog... We have used Bio Spot before with no problems...NEVER AGAIN !!!! One of the cats ended up having severe muscle tremors and had to be taken to an emergency vet at 5:30 am....After being bathed, pumped full of IV fluids to flush his system. given valium and (riblofloxin?) He is doing 90% better. It has been one full day so far...The vet told us that she sees numerous cats come into her office with the same problems from Hartz and Bio Spot or any over the counter medications containing concentrated amounts of permethrins...She suggested we use Advantage from now on...I'm too scared to even try any flea or tick medications at this point... There definitely should be something done about this horrible medicine. I'm all for a class action suit...Anyone know how to start one??? Synmyngrl00@aol.com
We will be reporting this to the EPA and everyone else we can find...Just hoping that the word on this medication will spread...Thank you for your wonderful web page and your concern.
Willa 8/20/04
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I just came across your Web site describing how Bio Spot nearly killed your dog, and I want to share my own experience with you and others who see your site.
I have used Bio Spot on my dog, a 98-pound male Rhodesian Ridgeback, for several years. Like you, I started using it because it was so much cheaper than Frontline, which I had been using before. In addition, Farnham claims that Bio Spot protects against a wider range of insects than Frontline. Each time my husband or I applied a dose of Bio Spot to our dog, he would start to rub his face in the carpet as though he was itching terribly. We kept using it, though, because we figured that the benefits outweighed a little temporary itchiness.
Our dog is 8 years old now, and we had noticed lately that he seemed to be slowing down a lot. We figured he was just getting old. He didn’t like to run as much as he used to, he slept much more, he wasn’t as playful, and he didn’t like to be touched. It never occurred to us that any of these were symptoms of Bio Spot poisoning.
I subscribe to a monthly publication called Whole Dog Journal (which I recommend highly), and from time to time, I had seen articles there about the dangers of spot-on pesticides such as Bio Spot and Frontline. I started to have misgivings, but my husband wasn’t convinced. So we compromised – instead of monthly, we started applying Bio Spot every five or six weeks.
Then last month, I was out of town when his Bio Spot treatment was due, and my husband (who was home with the dog) and I both forgot about it. When I got back, we realized we had missed the regular treatment by a couple of weeks, but we didn’t hurry to apply it. Meanwhile, we noticed an amazing change in our dog’s behavior – he was like a puppy again, running, playing, full of energy and enjoying physical contact with us. We immediately made the connection – Bio Spot seemed to have been draining him slowly of his vigor, and as soon as we stopped using it, he was back to normal.
One other thing: For years, our dog had been prone to get lumps and frequently had surgery to remove them. Sometimes they were diagnosed as benign, but several were pre-cancerous. He had a couple of lumps – one on and the other very close to his back, where the Bio Spot application always went – that we had decided, with our vet’s concurrence, to leave alone and just watch to make sure they didn’t get any bigger. We really didn’t want to subject him to the misery of surgery yet again. Our vet never could figure out why he got so many lumps; his diet is excellent (we feed him Wellness Super 5 Mix, one of the best, most-natural kibbles on the market, supplemented with fresh, raw fruits and vegetables), and nothing else seemed to explain it. Anyway, since we stopped using Bio Spot, those two lumps have gotten markedly smaller. I’m optimistic that they’ll disappear completely within a few months, and I’m now convinced the Bio Spot was responsible for them as well.
Anonymous 8/25/04
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We also made the terrible mistake of having bio spot in our home. We have a 15 lb poodle and a young cat, 'Salem'. Normally, we use Frontline. but, to say a few dollars, we purchased Bio Spot. The packaging looks so identical (frontline and bio spot) that without a magnifying glass, who can read the 4 point type "for Dogs 15 lbs. & under".
Well, this nasty product ended up on our cat. We went about our day and about 6 hours later heard thumping on the wood floors. We found the cat in the closet, beating his head against the floor, drooling, extremely hot, and his heart racing like he was on the verge of a heart attack. We rushed him to the Saturday night emergency room that. And, he end up spending a week at the vets. The bill came to over $700.00.
I feel this product should be off the market. And, I also feel, that the flea and tick products should redesign their packages. The vials which contain the product/chemicals need to come in the shape of the animal it is intended to be applied to. It would save so many animals lives and the grief of losing our best friend. After so many animals and owners dealing with this issue...my question, "is why is this so hard for these companies to do????" Animal crackers have to molds down to a science.
Sharon 8/26/04
That's an EXCELLENT idea!!! Why hasn't it been done yet? The manufacturers of these over-the -counter products want their vials to look like the more expensive products available through vets.
James TerBush
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I just talked to my sister-in-law who had used Bio Spot on one of her cats. They put it on her last night and found her seizuring this morning at 6:30a.m.. They took her to their vet who did everything humanly possible to calm the seizure activity with no avail. They had to have Squirt put to sleep. She was the mother of a recent litter. They're not going to tell the kids until Friday after school due to how upsetting it will be for them. She was so upset because the label said nothing of possible seizure activity. They had used it on their dog and previously on the other cats and had no seizure reaction. Their vet told them it had been the fourth case they've had. The product should be pulled from the shelves. It angers me so much that this can keep occurring. I hope you can continue to spread the message. I'm just sorry, I didn't know about the cases before so I could have given warning.
Kay 8/26/04
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I have been using Bio Spot for several years on my oldest Belgian Sheep Dog, now 16 years old with no apparent ill effects.
However, my youngest dog (2 year old) has always shown mild signs of distress after application, rubbing his head, neck, body on anything to try to remove the application. A good run outdoors usually settled him down.
However, yesterday morning I applied his usual dose - actually - a little less than I normally do - it was pretty warm outside but I took him for our usual romp to the soccer fields at a local college where he likes to chase after the retrievers while they fetch their balls - he seemed fine - but we didn't go straight home and ran errands for a while. Although he drank water right after the morning romp, he had not had much until we got home around lunch time.
I believe the heat and some dehydration caused the BioSpot to quickly move through dilated blood vessels and become more toxic during the morning exercise. By afternoon his hind quarters were stiff, so was his lower spine and he was walking erratically, back legs stiff and collapsing into a sitting position every few yards - which, in turn, caused great anxiety. I suspected the nervous system has been compromised by the pesticide and washed him twice as thoroughly as I could.
I hoped by morning there would be improvement, but I have seen little so far. I am pushing liquids, have administered Rescue Remedy (3 doses over a 4 hour period) and have now given him a a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory which I use for my oldest Belgian's bouts with arthritis. He is eating and drinking fine which is a good sign. He's also his usual alert self. But he does not want to move from the couch. He knows something is not quite right with him.
If there is no improvement by morning I will take him to the vet. And Bio Spot will pay the bill.
Jane 8/29/04